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 Salem
02:53:46 Floating pencil
Support?
-WP Click-
 DoggPuk3
02:03:45 Dogg/Pukester
Im gonna head off for the night
Goodnight chat<3
 DoggPuk3
02:03:12 Dogg/Pukester
WHatever you do friend please just be safe
These games are very comforting too! maybe you can find something to calm you here
Remember that the grass grows green after the storm
 -Sweet-Poison-
01:59:57 Bau
I know T°T
At this point I might just go walk into a wheat field until sunrise....
 DoggPuk3
01:58:37 Dogg/Pukester
Bau
Ugh thats the worst feeling, makes you feel even more trapped in your anger
 Gardiens Brisés Pack
01:57:10 Lotus/Lucca
I finally watched Wicked *^* as someone who isn't a big fan of musicals, it wasn't bad
 -Sweet-Poison-
01:56:30 Bau
Usually it's an option but it's late at night and my town isn't safe at night- usually I'd play badminton but the place I go to is closed and doesn't open till Monday which is essentially tomorrow at my current time
 DoggPuk3
01:55:17 Dogg/Pukester
But I do wish you luck in finding whatever suits you and I hope you get better soon
I understand that heavy seething feeling that sits on your chest and makes your muscles tighten and your mind become tunnel vision on that one thing
 DoggPuk3
01:54:00 Dogg/Pukester
Whew im not sure I have good advice either, I get very heated too and it usually involves me scream cussing at whatever or whoever, so what I do to try my best to avoid that is screaming as hard and delebrite as you can into a pillow, drawing while listening to music
pretty much all i got :/ since running isnt an option
 -Sweet-Poison-
01:52:31 Bau
^^
 DoggPuk3
01:51:44 Dogg/Pukester
Oh! Okay I understand
I had to make sure I had read your message right XD
 -Sweet-Poison-
01:51:32 Bau
I'm angry because of something else...
 -Sweet-Poison-
01:50:50 Bau
I need to productively work off extreme rage. I despise being angry in the slightest and my usual answer is not valid and I'm lacking a way to work off the anger
 DoggPuk3
01:50:07 Dogg/Pukester
You are wanting to blow off steam because of badminton?? :o
 DoggPuk3
01:49:45 Dogg/Pukester
Wait, Im trying to decipher what youre saying
 -Sweet-Poison-
01:47:32 Bau
Question
Does anyone know how to blow of steam as someone who only knows how to play badminton?? that and running is not an option Genuinely I need answers :')
 Salem
01:46:32 Floating pencil
Yes it is :3
 DoggPuk3
01:45:41 Dogg/Pukester
okay fineee we will go with yes
 DoggPuk3
01:45:22 Dogg/Pukester
Apparently the sun exploded cause what is this...
-Click-
 Salem
01:42:09 Floating pencil
There's no or

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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Hades

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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