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 Winterfell
04:34:40 Winter
I got a Gaelic blood nice ! And ew a cosmo
 Sabbath
04:34:19 Rook
I wish I could make custom gear </3 I have ideas for some of my wolves but I don't know how to do it :(
 Winterfell
04:17:21 Winter
For some reason she reminds me of buckbeak
 Winterfell
04:16:35 Winter
Sabbath
Well thank you <3 I was going to use a crystalline dye on her eyes but it ruined it
 Sabbath
04:14:07 Rook
Winter
She's lovely <3
 Winterfell
04:12:19 Winter
I still think she's pretty epic -WP Click-
 Sabbath
03:31:06 Rook
So it was the site then. I wonder what happened :o

Usually I blame it on my internet first so I wasn't sure if it was me or wolfplay xD
 Dawn
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Yes
 Sabbath
03:13:53 Rook
Site go down for anyone else earlier? It wouldn't let me in </3
 Pink kitty🐈
02:16:07 Kneecap stealer
Not the right chat
 Dawn
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-WP Click- Raffle :)
 Wildhowler04
12:48:00 
Ok I just wanted to know it was possible
 Pink kitty🐈
12:46:58 Kneecap stealer
Siku

I know it's still less likely but don't forget the chance of pups inheritance of the crystal pelt
 Pink kitty🐈
12:45:50 Kneecap stealer
Midnight donuts taste so much better and more powder
 Siku of Kinapak
12:40:25 Siku
@wild, they can but it's less likely than common pelts are to inherit.
 Wildhowler04
12:34:08 
Can pups inherit the firefly coat or not? Since it's exclusive
 Regal
12:20:17 
Song
Not sure about other regional pronunciations or influences but I have German native relatives and when they speak English they pronounce 'wolf' as 'woof'
 Serpents
12:06:07 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
i need to sleep.... insted of doing relaxing stuff im making a list of names to use for lore for my newer ocs XD
 Snow Song
11:59:36 Song
A guy said Woof instead of wolf
I would have laughed but unfortunately it was not a joke it was a pronunciation thing
Is this a regional thing somewhere or something or...?
I know I'm affected by vowel shift a bit & I say wolf like ol' like in ol' hound dog keeping it short
 Serpents
11:14:58 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
anyone up for a ninjago rp pm me Please I know its a long shot but Im dying to rp it and need more to rp with

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 Winterfell
04:34:40 Winter
I got a Gaelic blood nice ! And ew a cosmo
 Sabbath
04:34:19 Rook
I wish I could make custom gear </3 I have ideas for some of my wolves but I don't know how to do it :(
 Winterfell
04:17:21 Winter
For some reason she reminds me of buckbeak
 Winterfell
04:16:35 Winter
Sabbath
Well thank you <3 I was going to use a crystalline dye on her eyes but it ruined it
 Sabbath
04:14:07 Rook
Winter
She's lovely <3
 Winterfell
04:12:19 Winter
I still think she's pretty epic -WP Click-
 Sabbath
03:31:06 Rook
So it was the site then. I wonder what happened :o

Usually I blame it on my internet first so I wasn't sure if it was me or wolfplay xD
 Dawn
03:26:00 
Yes
 Sabbath
03:13:53 Rook
Site go down for anyone else earlier? It wouldn't let me in </3
 Pink kitty🐈
02:16:07 Kneecap stealer
Not the right chat
 Dawn
01:05:36 
-WP Click- Raffle :)
 Wildhowler04
12:48:00 
Ok I just wanted to know it was possible
 Pink kitty🐈
12:46:58 Kneecap stealer
Siku

I know it's still less likely but don't forget the chance of pups inheritance of the crystal pelt
 Pink kitty🐈
12:45:50 Kneecap stealer
Midnight donuts taste so much better and more powder
 Siku of Kinapak
12:40:25 Siku
@wild, they can but it's less likely than common pelts are to inherit.
 Wildhowler04
12:34:08 
Can pups inherit the firefly coat or not? Since it's exclusive
 Regal
12:20:17 
Song
Not sure about other regional pronunciations or influences but I have German native relatives and when they speak English they pronounce 'wolf' as 'woof'
 Serpents
12:06:07 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
i need to sleep.... insted of doing relaxing stuff im making a list of names to use for lore for my newer ocs XD
 Snow Song
11:59:36 Song
A guy said Woof instead of wolf
I would have laughed but unfortunately it was not a joke it was a pronunciation thing
Is this a regional thing somewhere or something or...?
I know I'm affected by vowel shift a bit & I say wolf like ol' like in ol' hound dog keeping it short
 Serpents
11:14:58 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
anyone up for a ninjago rp pm me Please I know its a long shot but Im dying to rp it and need more to rp with




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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